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特斯拉将派遣中国工程师和工人援助美国加州弗里蒙特工厂
本文译自Youtube,原标题:Tesla sends hundreds of Shanghai production staff to Freemont
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据知情人士透露,特斯拉公司将把新升级的上海工厂的工程师和生产工人派往位于加州弗里蒙特的工厂,以帮助提高美国工厂的产量。
特斯拉将派出包括自动化和控制工程师在内的员工帮助弗里蒙特工厂提高产量,这里主要生产Model S、X和Y车型。
据透露,大约200人将前往加州工作最多三个月。
今年9月,特斯拉扩建了上海工厂,在中国售出了83,135辆汽车。该公司在美国以外的第一家工厂的升级工作历时约五周,包括在自动化和控制工程师的监督下对机器进行维护和改进。这使得该厂的年产能翻了一番,达到约100万辆,而弗里蒙特每年可生产约65万辆汽车。
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I live in the US. I think it’s a great idea for the crew who did the upgrade to the line in China to come over and do the upgrade here. It might even light a fire under the Fremont crew. From what I hear the Chinese cars are well built.
我生活在美国。我认为在中国升级生产线的技术人员来这里帮助升级当地的生产线是个好主意,它甚至可能给予弗里蒙特的技术人员以鞭策。据我所知,中国的汽车制造得很棒。
A slap in the face to the people that think China is just a low cost labor force.Their engineering talent in manufacturing is the best in the world..这是对那些认为中国只有低成本劳动力的人的一记耳光。
It's fascinating seeing the changes at the Fremont factory. My older brother was one of the original team to work in that plant when the assemply plant moved from East Oakland to Fremont in the sixities. Every year, General Motors would have a picnic for their employees and their families at the Fremont plant during the model year change over. He was laid off in the 80's after GM entered into a joint venture withToyota He eventually transferred to a GM plant in Kansas City, where he worked through his seventies and retired after working for General Motors for 55 years. The building is nearly sixty years old and I'm curious what the old girl looks like inside.看到弗里蒙特工厂的变化真是令人着迷。当组装工厂在上世纪60 年代从东奥克兰搬到弗里蒙特时,我的哥哥是最初在该工厂工作的团队成员之一。每年,通用汽车公司都会在车型换代年度为其员工及其家人在弗里蒙特工厂举行野餐。上世纪80年代,在通用汽车与丰田合资后,他被解雇了。他最终转到了堪萨斯城的通用汽车工厂并在那里工作到70多岁,他在通用汽车工作了55年后直到退休。这座工厂的建筑有将近60年历史了,我很好奇里面现在变成了什么样子。
I saw a video of Tesla after Tesla coming from the Shanghai factory to the parking lot. Then, I see them drive to the freighters. With FSD enabled and a fully mapped route, I wonder what they would save on efficiency and drivers! I think that would lower costs and maybe even be reflected in the price!我看过一段特斯拉汽车从上海工厂开到停车场的视频,它们启用了完全自动驾驶功能和完全映射的地图行驶到货轮上。我想知道这能在效率和驾驶员方面节约些什么!我认为这将能够降低成本,甚至可能反映在价格上!
The only part I disagree with is that i don't expect Tesla to lower the price after retooling Freemont. I think so because the competition for EVs in US market is abysmally and demand is high (for Tesla or any other EVs) which will allow Tesla to make even higher margin and perhaps not raise prices.我唯一不同意的一点是我不期待特斯拉在重新改造弗里蒙特工厂后降低销售价格。我这么认为是因为在美国市场上的电动汽车的竞争非常不激烈,而且需求很高(对于特斯拉或其他任何电动汽车而言),这将使特斯拉能够获得更高的利润,或许它们不会提高价格。
That headline reminds me of the plot to the 1986 film Gung Ho, except the workers brought over were from Japan.这个标题让我想起了1986年的电影《Gung-Ho》中的情节,除了被带过来的工人来自日本。译注:Gung-Ho,据说是中文“干活”的音译。电影《Gung-Ho》又译作《超级魔鬼干部》,讲述的是美国宾州的一个小镇,大部分镇民都在一家汽车零件装配工厂上班,整个镇的繁荣富裕维系于此。然而经济不景气使得该工厂就要关门大吉,史帝文生是这家工厂的员工,为了自己、为了全镇,他跳出来去游说一家日本的汽车公司买下工厂,好保留大家的饭碗。俗语说:「杀头生意有人做,赔本生意没人干」。日本人接掌美国工厂,当然希望赚得足够的利润,而关键不仅在于日本的先进技术的移入,也在于美国员工的全力以赴,使生产线更有效率。当日本的管理层遇上美国的劳工阶层时产生了一系列文化冲突。
Kanban is a popular Lean workflow management method for defining, managing and improving services that deliver knowledge work. It helps you visualize work, maximize efficiency, and improve continuously. Work is represented on Kanban boards, allowing you to optimize work delivery across multiple teams and handle even the most complex projects in a single environment.That's what Industrial Engineers call it - Kanban. The Japanese word “kanban”, meaning “visual board”Toyota invented it from a guy from the USA.“看板”(Kanban)是一种流行的精益工作流管理方法,用于定义、管理和改进交付知识工作的服务。它可以帮助您可视化工作,最大限度地提高效率并不断改进。工作会显示在看板上,让您可以优化跨多个团队的工作交付,甚至可以在单个环境中处理最复杂的项目。这就是工业工程师所说的“看板”。日语单词“看板”(kanban),意思是“视觉板”(visual board)。丰田从一个来自美国的家伙那里发明了它(译注:应该指的是质量管理之父戴明)。
those chinese will be shocked at how laid back american workers are every day. when they return to shanghai, they may learn something from their american peers.那些中国人会对美国工人每天如此懒散感到震惊。当他们回到上海时,他们可能会从美国同行那里学到一些东西。
Would be better to send them to Austin.. Austin has more potential and needs to get sprintingYea Fremont has higher margins with X / S. I still believe better to throw them on Austin line and show them how it’s done in Shanghai..最好把他们送到奥斯汀(译注:特斯拉在美国德州的工厂)。奥斯汀更有潜力,产能需要冲刺。是的,虽然弗里蒙特生产的MODEL X/S的利润率更高,但我仍然认为最好把他们送到奥斯汀的生产线上,并向那里的员工展示他们在上海是如何做到的。
Well, I feel bad to say this, but all the great nations were founded on hardworking people. For the USA, it was by the WASP, the White Anglo-Saxon Protestants. Sure they enslaved the blacks for a very long time, but they WASP were and still are hardworking people. For China, well we all know how hardworking the Chinese are. Technologies change over time, and people's income increases over time, but hardworking ethics should be kept.好吧,我很难过这么说,但所有伟大的国家都是建立在勤劳的人民身上的。对美国来说,这意味着白人盎格鲁撒克逊新教徒。诚然,他们曾经奴役过黑人很长一段时间,但他们过去和现在都是勤劳的人。对于中国来说,我们都很清楚中国人有多努力。虽然技术会随着时间的推移而变化,人们的收入也会随着时间而增加,但勤劳的道德应该得到保持。
If Tesla can successfully pull this off it’ll be amazing. So many hurdles to jump through including china allowing their people to leave their country.如果特斯拉能成功完成这一任务,那将是一件了不起的事情。因为要跨越的障碍太多了,包括让中国允许他们的人民离开他们的国家。
Come on, looks like you still have those cold war times mentality. Before the pandemic, Chinese tourist over 100+ millions traveled all over the world without restriction from their government !!拜托,看起来你的心态仍然停留在冷战时期。在大流行之前,每年有超过1亿中国游客在没有政府限制的情况下游遍了世界各地!!
It is a near-perfect combination of American design, development and sales with Chinese manufacturing and parts supply. In fact, this model has worked well for many years. For example, Apple has become the world's most valuable company and is inseparable from Chinese manufacturing. China used to be an ideological supremacy country, but now China's ideology has long been replaced by trade and economic development. Instead, America's so-called liberal democratic ideology determines its military and economic course. No country in the manufacturing industry can compete with China in terms of scale, logistics, industrial chain support, and operations. The most important thing is that China can. Provide skilled, disciplined, hard-working, best-quality, relatively inexpensive industrial workers. The decoupling of China and the United States will be a loss for both sides.这是美国设计、开发和销售与中国制造和零部件供应的完美结合。事实上,这种模式已经运行了很多年。例如,苹果已经成为世界上最有价值的公司,这与中国的制造业密不可分。中国过去是一个意识形态至上的国家,但现在中国的意识形态早已被贸易和经济发展所取代。相反,美国所谓的自由民主意识形态决定了其军事和经济路线。没有哪个国家能够在制造业的规模、物流、产业链支持和运营方面与中国竞争,最重要的是中国可以提供技术娴熟、纪律严明、工作勤奋、质量最好、价格相对低廉的产业工人。中美脱钩将是双方的损失。
Dang, sending China techs to increase American quality... sigh. As long as it works!该死,派中国的技术人员来提高美国产品的质量…唉。只要它有效!
The work ethic at the Shanghai factory cannot transfer to Fremont factory. American workers are over rated.上海工厂的职业道德无法转移到弗里蒙特工厂,美国工人的能力被高估了。
We all know Chinese worker are more efficiency than US otherwise they weren't reached top2 economic within 10yrs...elon is immigran he will be turns the US as communist.我们都知道中国工人的效率比美国工人高,否则他们的经济规模无法在10年内达到前2……马斯克是移民,他将把美国变成共产主义国家。
How many years now have we been hearing people say the price of teslas cars and other products will come down. The reality is we keep hearing excuses why they keep going up. My prediction is that the next excuse will be ".... in real terms the price has come because inflation is running at 10% and Tesla has only increased it's prices by 5%....." Tesla is a public company its shareholders demand the rate of annual profits to increase y/y. Tesla prices will only start to come down when a competitor makes a better product at a cheaper price and that could be a long time into if Tesla keeps on innovating into the future.多少年来,我们一直听到人们说特斯拉的汽车和其他产品的价格会下降。但现实是,我们不断听到他们涨价的借口。我的预测是,他们的下一个借口将是“……实际价格已经上涨,因为通货膨胀率高达10%,但特斯拉的价格只上涨了5%……”特斯拉是一家上市公司,其股东会要求年利润率的同比增长,只有当竞争对手以更便宜的价格生产出更好的产品时,特斯拉的价格才会开始下降,如果特斯拉在未来能够继续创新,(价格下降)可能需要很长时间。
This one actually does make sense. Demand has fallen off a cliff in China, and Elon cannot just lay them off because of optics. He is hoping many of them will simply refuse to move and quit on their own. Of those who do decide to move will find themselves in a game of musical chairs, because make no mistake...demand for Tesla's has also fallen off a cliff in the US. These are pretty standard big corporate tactics to thin the heard.这个确实有道理。中国的需求已经直线下跌,埃隆不能仅仅因为optics而解雇他们,他希望他们中的许多人会干脆拒绝调岗而自己辞职。而在那些决定调岗的人中,他们会发现自己陷入了一场随音乐抢椅子的游戏,因为别误会了……特斯拉在美国的需求也已直线下跌,这些都是非常标准的大公司为削弱公众注意力而采取的策略。
Free88, I don't know where you are getting your info from, but I don't see a slowdown at the sales/order books for China. Tesla supplies most of the world, export wise from China, except Taiwan, which is supplied from the USA. Right now there are 7 ships with approx 14k Tesla cars headed for Europe from China. That makes the production numbers close to delivery numbers in China. There is a car freighter ship in the bay area loading up as planned. Tesla from Texas is shipping MY and M3 cars to Mexico and northern Latin America.@Free88,我不知道你是从哪里得到信息的,但我没有看到中国的销售/订单有所放缓。特斯拉从中国的出口供应了世界大部分地区(台湾地区除外,台湾地区由美国供应)。目前,有7艘能够装载14000辆汽车的从中国驶往欧洲的船,这使得在中国的生产数量接近交付数量。湾区有一艘汽车货轮正在按计划装货,来自德克萨斯州的特斯拉汽车正在向墨西哥和拉丁美洲北部运送MODEL Y和MODEL 3汽车。
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