雅万高铁余波：日本非常生气！中国印尼高铁都建成了，为什么印度不行？

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2023-10-01 18:52:20

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雅万高铁余波：日本非常生气！中国印尼高铁都建成了，为什么印度不行？

本文译自Youtube，原标题：Japan is very angry! China Indonesia high speed railway is completed, why not India?

@suratpongpipatpanich5627

I bet, with the cooperation of China, the extension of Jakarta-Bandung line will be completed before the Mumbai-Ahmedabad one in India.

我敢打赌，在中方的配合下，雅加达-万隆线的延长线将在印度孟买-艾哈迈达巴德线之前完工。

@n.k.c8670

Indians keep talking about land acquisition issues in India as if Indonesia doesn't have the same. Indonesia is a full democracy with much land in private hands

印度人一直在谈论印度的土地征用问题，就好像印尼没有同样的问题一样。印尼是一个完全民主的国家，许多土地都掌握在私人手中。

@defleppard8039

The western forgot about Great Wall of China built in 771 BCE lasting for 2800 years and Borobudur of Indonesia built in 778 AD lasting for 1200 years. The ancient Asia's advanced technology.

西方人忘记了建于公元前 771 年、历时 2800 年的中国长城，忘记了建于公元 778 年、历时 1200 年的印度尼西亚婆罗浮屠，这些都是古代亚洲的先进技术。

@albertchu7926

Indonesia definitely make good decisions to choose China as China have good record of completing its undertaking high speed rail all this while. China have the expertise, experience, knowledge, technology, the equipments, the manpower and the money to complete its contracts ahead of their scheduled. China have more than 40K km of high speed rail experience that no country in this world have. Bravos China and Indonesia �� As for the Philippines, it’s better China didn’t offer their services to them as they have very2 bad intentions towards China and they have invited their master US to have another 4 military bases in their country to counter and provoke China. So it’s best China stopped all their investment, projects and contracts in this country. There are many other countries in Asia that China can offer their services.

印尼选择中国无疑是明智的决定，因为中国一直以来在完成其高速铁路项目方面有着良好的记录。中国拥有提前完成合同的专业技能、经验、知识、技术、设备、人力和资金。中国拥有建成超过 4 万公里高速铁路的经验，这是世界上任何国家都不具备的。中国和印尼干得好！！至于菲律宾，中国最好不要向它们提供服务，因为它们对中国怀有非常恶劣的意图，它们还邀请它们的主子美国在它们的国家再建 4 个军事基地以对抗和挑衅中国。因此，中国最好停止在该国的所有投资、项目和合同。中国可以为亚洲其他许多国家提供服务。

@binjbinj8018

Don't forget to add in LAOS with INDONESIA among our ASEAN peers who also had a finishing rail link ahead of India. So basically it is a double whammy for India not being productive and decision wise.

不要忘了在我们的东盟国家中除了印尼外还有老挝，它们也先于印度完成了铁路连接。因此，这对印度的生产力和决策不明智来说基本上是双重打击。

@jimmylee1776

Choosing the wrong partner in a major project can be a big headache. China has successfully built high speed railways all over China. This should be something, prospective clients need to consider.

在重大项目中选择错误的合作伙伴会让人非常头疼。中国已成功修建了遍布全国的高速铁路，这应该是潜在的客户需要考虑的事情。

@jont2576

China has 14 years of experience building hsr and 10 times more than any country in the world,anyone who thinks they can compete is out of their minds.

中国拥有14年的高铁建设经验，它的高铁里程是世界上所有国家的10倍，任何认为自己可以与之竞争的人都是疯了。

@oceanwave4502

To be honest, Japan is a dying country due to aging population. Think twice before making deals with Japan as it could collapse anytime.

老实说，由于人口老龄化，日本是一个垂死的国家。在与日本做交易之前要三思而后行，因为它随时可能崩溃。

@user-dr8eh4zo3t

A connected ASEAN with China is way more strategically significant for China than the revenues of the project itself. So I can understand why they accept even to transfer technology.

东盟与中国的互联互通对中国来说比项目本身的收入更具战略意义，所以我可以理解为什么它们甚至接受技术转让。

@matthewxue3608

The reason why China is willing to transfer high-speed rail technology is that China's technology has been improving, and what is transferred is mature technology, but it is never the latest, so China people will not worry about being surpassed.

中国之所以愿意转让高铁技术，是因为中国的技术一直在进步，而且转让的是成熟的技术，但绝不是最新的，所以中国人不会担心被超越。

@eugenec7130

Personally, I do not think that Indonesia will be able to rise above China in rail technology and become a competitor to Chinese rail industry. China's becoming a rail giant is not a small feat. This is a miracle which no other country in this world is able to duplicate (not even the United States). It is safe for China to transfer its rail technology to Indonesia.

就我个人而言，印尼无法在铁路技术方面超越中国并成为中国铁路行业的竞争对手。中国成为铁路巨头的成就非同小可，这是世界上任何其他国家都无法复制的奇迹（即使是美国）。中国向印尼转让铁路技术是安全的。

@kanojune5754

We do not have vision to compete with any East Asian/West European countries' rail technology. All we want is to meet domestic demand and sell our trains to any other developing nations (particularly Sub-Saharan Africa, as well as South and Southeast Asia).

我们没有与任何东亚/西欧国家竞争铁路技术的愿景。我们只想满足国内需求并向其他发展中国家（尤其是撒哈拉以南的非洲地区以及南亚和东南亚）出售我们的列车。

@hjhghj462

China is the only country in the world that has the most complete natural landforms and weather at the same time. Just meeting domestic demand has already raised the experience value to the maximum.

This alone is enough to China won't making mistakes when contracting foreign railway projects. if you want build it by own or export it, even the technology is transferred to you, without rich experience the result still be a mess. not to mention that after decades of development of high-speed rail, only China, Germany, Japan have been able to export it to foreign countries.

中国是世界上唯一同时拥有最完整的自然地貌和气候的国家，仅仅满足国内需求就已经将其经验值提升到了极致。

单凭这一点，就足以让中国在承揽国外铁路项目时不会犯错。如果你想自建或出口，即使将技术转让给你，没有丰富的经验，其结果也将是一塌糊涂。更何况高铁经过几十年的发展，只有中国、德国、日本有能力向国外出口。

@phillipeggensh

China has soared passed the yesterday leaders of technology and people are continuing to count on either USA or Japan, they been relaxing for a decade thinking their technology can never be defeated. China has soared above any innovation and technology in any manner of field. Well done China. There are some values the world must learn...Hardwork, Perseverance, Persistence, Faithfulness, long suffering, endurance, and love. These are in fact God's attributes.

中国已经超越了过去的技术领先者，而人们还在继续指望已经松懈了几十年的美国或日本并认为它们的技术永远不会被打败。中国在所有的领域都已经拥有了创新和技术。有一些价值观是世界必须学习的......比如勤奋、毅力、坚持、忠诚、长期吃苦、忍耐和爱，这些其实都是上帝才有的品质。

@ohmikesroh5904

Indonesia is smart to choose china to build their railway... It is clear that china is way ahead of Japan now in construction of such infrastructure. Why did India choose Japan?

印尼选择中国修建铁路是明智之举... 很明显，中国在此类基础设施的建设方面远远领先于日本。印度为什么会选择日本？

@asw654

Indian nationalism is on the rise and they see China as their rival, not Japan.

They didn't want to embarrass themselves tbh.

因为印度的民族主义正在崛起，他们把中国而不是日本视为对手。
他们不想让自己难堪。

@MeLodiCarAma

Good to hear that India is lagging behind for the reasons I have known that support my predictions. Bravo to China and Indonesia. And to the Philippines...make up your mind. Only strongly minded nations will surface up to victory....this is 2023. Western inclinations doesn't work anymore and stop "thinking" western. You're not even solving all your own problems through years of western influence formulas. The race is on

很高兴听到印度落后了，因为我所了解的原因支持了我的预测。为中国和印尼喝彩。至于菲律宾......下决心吧，只有意志坚强的国家才能取得胜利....现在是2023年，倒向西方已经行不通了，不要再“想”西方了，因为多年来你们甚至无法通过受西方影响的模式解决自己的所有问题。比赛还在继续。

@davidsilver5974

India always learns the hard way!

But they don’t take a lesson from them!

Corrupt government and greedy politicians ensure disruption of the country’s progress!

That’s why India will always remain in the same state as it is now!

印度总是吃了苦头才知道厉害！
但他们并没有从中吸取教训！
腐败的政府和贪婪的政客破坏了国家的进步！
这就是为什么印度将永远停留在现在的状态！

@Nagari_ID

the problem is not Japan's fault, Japan's construction of subway trains in Indonesia has been completed quickly, the trains made in Japan and China are very good quality, East and Southeast Asian people want to build on earth but Indians want to build in outer space, they are not enthusiastic about building HSR

问题不是日本的错，日本在印尼修建的地铁很快就完工了。日本和中国制造的列车质量都很好，东亚人和东南亚人想在地球上建设，而印度人却想在外太空建设，他们对修建高铁并不热心。

@po-yintso2192

Let Japan take the job to build speed rail for Philippines since Philippines wants Japan to build it.��Maybe Japan can build more than 10 km for Philippine as it did to India!

也许日本可以为菲律宾修建超过 10 公里的铁路，就像它为印度修建的那样！

@rap3208

@user-ob7ln5vi6j Didn't you listen to the video? China is tops when it comes to High Speed Rail, they hae been building so much that they have become efficient and fast in doing it. In just about 15 years, they built so much that they have over 3/4 of the total world HSR in length. In 2007, the chinese and california just about started building their HSR at the same time and now at 2023 the chinese have over 42,000 km of rail while california HSR still have to lay a kilometer of tack.

The Filipinos are too much a lapdog of the US that it can't decide what's good for itself. They have always been afraid of the china "yellow peril" that is primarily imbibed from the american's constant propaganda against China. the Philippines will choose to spend twice or thrice the cost of a High Speed Rail before it will give it to China for construction.

你没看视频吗？说到高铁，中国是最棒的，因为他们一直在建造大量的高铁，以至于在建造过程中变得高效、快速。在短短的 15 年左右的时间里，他们修建的高铁长度已经超过世界高铁总长度的 3/4。2007 年，中国和加州差不多同时开始修建高铁，到 2023 年，中国的高铁里程已超过 42000 公里，而加州的高铁还未铺设一公里的路面。

菲律宾人是美国的走狗，他们无法决定什么对自己有利。他们一直在害怕中国的“黄祸”，这主要源于美国不断的反华宣传。菲律宾会浪费两到三倍于高铁造价的钱，才会选择把高铁交给中国建造。

@MyYuwono

The message is simple japan could bombed pearl harbour but they never be able to defeat usa, it is the same with japan could invaded china but they never conquered because Japan and China is not at the same level.

视频传达的信息很简单，日本可以轰炸珍珠港，但他们永远不可能打败美国，这与日本可以入侵中国，但他们永远不可能征服中国是一样的，因为日本和中国不在同一水平线上。

@cuteandfunnyearthlings2863

China wanted indonesia market so china needs to transfer tech to indonesia, its the same with tesla, apple, nike etc who operate in china and access to china's market the west will need to transfer tech etc to china, win win co operation and thats why tesla success and tesla is number one ev leader ouside of china if its not working with china.

中国想要印尼的市场，所以中国需要向印尼转让技术。特斯拉、苹果、耐克等在中国开展业务的公司也是如此，要进入中国市场，西方国家需要向中国转让技术。合作双赢才是特斯拉成功的原因，如果不与中国合作，特斯拉将只是中国以外的头号电动车领导者。

@DuChen-py7gl

Tesla's company in China operates independently and has not transferred any technology to China.

特斯拉在中国的公司是独立运营的，它并没有向中国转让任何技术。

@lancesay

lol... oh man delayed! who is making this hardship decision, sorry, India, go with a country that can deliver... stop sticking with an old best friend that cant deliver. the philippines will make mistakes like India if they don't go with china. save your headache, frustration, and time because time is money, just go with china, unless you are playing politics. laos is done, and Indonesia is done.